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Friday, June 20, 2008

There is no Logic Studio for Windows PCs

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It might seem obvious for most of you that Logic Studio does not ship for the Windows OS nor for any OS that is not Apple's own.

I write this because a lot of people (according to the site's traffic statistics) land here via Google searches such as "Logic for PC" or "Logic Studio for PC".


There are 2 ways to have a copy of Logic working on a non-Apple PC and, to be honest, they are not the greatest:

1. Get an old copy of Emagic's Logic for Windows
2. Get a pirated version of Mac OS X for PC

Here are the downfalls:

On the first option you will certainly NOT be up to date as the last Logic version that shipped for Windows was on 2002 (when Apple bought Emagic).

On the second option here are some thoughts:

a. It's illegal
b. It's cumbersome
c. It's not stable
d. There are no updates
e. No Mac experience

I used to be a PC musician curious about "the Mac experience" that everyone was gushing about and I thought it was just hype, I even used to say "damn it I'm a PC guy I build my own computers and I ain't going Mac, f*ck those overpriced-incompatible fruit-labeled boxes".

Then I grew terribly tired of playing the fireman-cum-mechanic-cum-neurosurgeon-cum-plumber-cum-witch doctor with my PCs trying to reduce latency, tweaking every aspect of Windows to make it work for my music, trying to find the right set of components... I then fell for Apple's marketing gimmick "it just works"... It has been exactly that, for me.

I have 2 concrete and solid words to sum it up and to explain why it has been that great:

Core Audio


(June 25th update, for those of you who wonder why, this is exactly the kind of stuff that made me leave Windows, read this Bill Gates email -apparently it's the real deal- where he rants about his own Windows experience, straight from the horse's mouth eh?)
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  1. Logic Audio Platinum for Windows (version 5 something) is very capable and still works quite well for Windows. The only problem is making sure the USB dongle works properly, as there is no fix if it breaks.

    If I were a Windows person I'd likely be using Sonar or perhaps even FL Studio, both of which have lots of niftiness included. Cubase just looks ugly to me (and far too dark).
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  2. Thank you for your input Milibrane,

    I'd love to see if there are still people betting on Platinum, true being that it's still acceptable for today's standards.

    Cheers
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  3. There was a Computer Music producer master class a few issues ago featuring a guy who does a lot of work on Platinum and gets a lot of mileage out of a Moog Source. So, there are people out there.

    I don't think there's an equivalent of Logic Studio on either platform, though. It's the most complete all-in-one package there is.
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  4. Hello,

    Well, I have made the big decision to convert from PC's/Windows to a Mac AND from Sonar to Logic Studio. Do you have any major recommendations on importing my work from Sonar into Logic Studio?

    Thanks!

    Chris
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  5. Hello chris,

    Well what kind of projects are yours?
    Mainly audio? softsynths?

    In any case I strongly recommend reading the manuals and joining as many forums that talk about LS.

    Congratulations on your decision!

    Cheers.
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  6. Yeah, it's REALLY annoying that Apple don't make a version for Windows. I mean seriously, colleges and schools are using this software... parents aren't exactly going to go out and buy overpriced-incompatible fruit-labeled box for their kids.

    I can't edit my projects at home... which is really annoying.

    By the way, installing OS X on a non-apple computer isn't as unstable as you might think, provided it's running on compatible hardware. I'm personally not shelling out for a low-spec computer that's been branded with the logos of a company I hate (after a dreadful experience with purchasing an iPod, but that's another story).

    Shame, Logic is a pretty decent and user friendly music production package... The operating system isn't bad either (albeit a bit annoying to someone used to Windows), shame both the OS and logic are locked down to Fruitboxes...
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  7. Has anyone switched from Emagic Logic Platinum PC version to the new MAC version and can tell me if he was able to
    (1) use and import the songs created with the PC version?
    (2) use his VST instrument he bought for PC?
    I would greatly appreaciate your help since I was considering buying a MAC just for this reason.
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  9. -) Is there any program for Windows Vista

    I like logic studio but I need to use in my PC I hope there is a program like logic studio...
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  10. They added a low-latency audio API in Vista called WASAPI, which would finally make ASIO unnecessary if the software companies would start adopting it -- which they're not, mostly out of stubbornness.

    But you're right, I use Macs for audio at school and they are quite nice for that purpose. It really boils down to the fact that the Mac music/audio community is much older and larger than the Windows community.
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  11. SOLUTION for PC guys wanting to migrate to MAC on a budget? CRAIGSLIST! Just got a Macbook Pro 3.0 Ghz New Version for $1200 brand new in the box, This retails for almost $3K with 512 Vid card & 4gig Memory. Keep a look out it took me 4 months & someone finally listed for 1500 I came wit 1200 Cash he took it! BOUUUYYAAAA! Hello Mac World!
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  12. for any pc users looking for a music production program, i would reccomend FL Studio 8. Although not as good as logic, it gives it a run for its money.
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  13. i need Logic Studio for Windows XP , plz can you help me...

    Contact:
    dj.malii@hotmail.com
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  14. I would definitely recommend REAPER over FL Studio, I am surprised nobody else has mentioned it yet
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  15. STILL USE MY LOGIC ON MY PC AND IT STILL IS THE BEST FOR ME. I ALSO USE FRUITY LOOPS AND SONAR WITH IT. SOUNDS JUST AS GOOD AS ANYTHING ELSE TO ME.
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  16. Pro Tools has not been mentioned once here lol! I have a PC, and have run various platforms, the only success story being the above - yes ya have to pay for Pro Tools hardware, from 200 upwards depending on input requirements, but seriously works, just make sure you have the best processor possible ( and compatible ) for PT8 - it is a reeet drain on ya ickle pentium.
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  17. If mac is so great, why are they running Intel chips now?
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  18. Cubase has not also been mentioned, WHY?
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  19. YOu all are dumb there is LOGIC PRO FOR WINDOWS they just dont make it anymore only for apple now but you can get an older copy for windows
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  20. Ableton, Cubase, Reaper, Reason...wow + everything that come with windows pc, not like the overprised buggy hardware that is on apples pc, where you don't choice of programs and should use only what apple allow you.
    Get a live, get a windows!
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  21. Hey people, i got a pc what is the best music program i can use and is good as logic. Thanks.
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  22. what? propellerhead reason?
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  23. I just got say Adobe Audition 3 is the most intuitive and robust program for audio editing period. Too bad they can't get a better midi sequencer into it. Then logic would have it's match on the PC side.
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  24. Can Logic Platinum 5.5.1 run on Windows 7?
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  25. Can you use Logic Platinum with no interface and a simple USB Condensed Microphone, I'm a on the go type artist, so my laptop is my recording studio for collaborations and things, so it takes me a while to get to a actual studio, to record vocals, so I brought a USB Condense Mic with hopes that I could record vocals, and things. So some feed back on my question would be nice, thank you.
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  26. Your mic is not milk and it's not Condensed. Logic Platinum does not require a specific interface to run, however it is about 8 years old. There have been a lot of advances in computers, as well as audio hardware in the last 8 years. I can't understand why anyone would opt for an old version of Logic instead of a much more up to date version of ANY other DAW for the PC. If you have/like to be on a Windows PC there are plenty of decent DAWs available. ProTools is the industry standard choice for PC recording and I'm surprised only one other person has mentioned it. If you are "collaborating" with other people in the music industry on a PC I would get ProTools. If you are one of the hundreds of people I help every month that thinks they are going to be the next Dr. Dre, shocked when you see a cheap ass crap interface for $199, you ask if there is anything cheaper, get whatever you want because you won't do anything with it anyway. (yes I realize that was a run on sentence) Moral of the story is if you are a hobbyist that isn't looking to produce music and just wants to record themselves for their own enjoyment, get Sonar or the like. If you are a talentless someone who "Wants to make beats" get FL Studio. If you are actually looking to be in music production, get ProTools if you are on a PC, and get Logic & ProTools if you are on a Mac... And GO TO SCHOOL for music production ( P.S. it isn't cheap )
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  27. Thank you for your input Milibrane,

    I'd love to see if there are still people betting on Platinum, true being that it's still acceptable for today's standards.

    Cheers
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  28. Hello chris,

    Well what kind of projects are yours?
    Mainly audio? softsynths?

    In any case I strongly recommend reading the manuals and joining as many forums that talk about LS.

    Congratulations on your decision!

    Cheers.
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  30. sinvelikogmajstoraJun 7, 2010 08:21 AM
    I used nuendo4 for some time on my pc with xpx64 and I think it's as good as logic or pro tools. It's just like cubase with some video production stuff added...and it looks a bit better. here is a very stable version for free:
    http://torrent-finder.com/show.php?q=nuendo+4+antony+gr&Browse=tabs&PageLoad=loadall&select=13
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  31. I have a Lexicon box for external instruments, would this work with Logic Pro 9?
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  32. Yep! I was agreed, I'll keep in touch to your blog. This blog is so usefully, Thanks for the posted ;)
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  33. Wow. Samplitude or Cubase > Logic, thought it's still a good DAW.
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  34. Glad you were able to purchase a stolen computer. You should feel proud. It's one of the reasons store-bought ones are so expensive!
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  35. SweetbennyfentonNov 16, 2010 01:41 AM
    The fact that Logic Pro doesn't ship for Windows in this day and age has to be one
    of the most ridiculous business decisions ever.

    I was an Emagic user that got stung by the shift to Apple. Those days of 'Macs are for creative types' are long over. I own an iMac and a PC, they both do the job.
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  36. You're an IDIO_T. Who the EFF cares about Logic? I'd have to be an idiot to spend double on a mac that's 1/2 the power to run software I DO NOT NEED to create music with. There are tons of better software for windows you stupid moron. And your reason #2, "it's' unstable" and no "mac experience" blah blah. You should be 100% ashamed of your complete stupidity. It's unstable on WHAT hardware? You can buy all sorts of PC's, most of which are BETTER than macs. And for the mactards that will show up to talk about apple hardware being better.

    I have an i7 based PC that runs at 4ghz with windows 7. I've done hackintosh for fun and it beats any $1600 imac, or $2000, or $2500 pro out there. And any machead who knows his stuff, KNOWS I AM RIGHT. I also only paid $730 for it.!

    That said, I have no real use for OSX OR Logic. I use windows 7 and there are, again, many professional programs out there. Some of them are the SAME ones that run under osx you 1/2 wit.
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  37. @Sweetbennyfenton - if this was on Gawker, i'd heart you.
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  38. Nobody here thought of the simplest way to record and produce music....and by far the cheapest...Just install Linux. I personally use Ubuntu Studio with its realtime kernel for super low latency i use Ardour as my DAW (It puts cubase to shame) and i use Audacity as a simple audio editor if the need arises.All of this is FREE.
    The only non free part was my hardware...350$ dolar budget gaming PC and a ESI Juli@ sound card...This combo works flawlessly. No need to spend 3000$ on a mac and another 3000$ on overpriced software.None of us here are or ever will be THAT professional to justify spending thousands of dollars on every little bit of hardware and software.None of us is producing Enigmas next album none of us is producing the next worldwide hit or recording a symphonic orchestra...most of us here are enthusiasts or semi-professionals or just home recording losers who will never do anything with what they 'produce'.So in the end its pointless.Either use Linux for free or use pirated software. It IS a HOME studio..not like someone will come and arrest you for having a cracked program........
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  39. Not if your starting to look at the aspects of programing, data and design. Microsoft provides mass use, thus creating a cheaper product that is ore readily and commonly used, this means, as great as the technology is, saving money to make money is always the Microsoft incentive, which is not a bad one for its investors and exactly why its made William Gates the man he is. Now Apple has always been seen as the "artsy" one. Apple is derived closely to Debian Linux and attains very simple, cheap resolutions to its programing, and now with the use of more and more mobile apps, the market of users is growing. What do they find, if you want quality, quickness, and need severe processing power at an instant. Apple / Debian Linux systems flow faster with more consistency. Its not like everyone is trying to "BS" you, look at most professionals, they commonly use macs. Its not because MAC is a better system than PC, MACs are just more efficient for the amount of processing power needed. PCs allow for versatility, which is why so much processing power is taken from what sometimes is very simple source programming. Moral of the story, if you need high consistent processing capability for professional or ameture audio or visual software, MAC will sadly be your dominator.
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  40. you use linux and you can't even spell it?
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  41. because the ibm chips mac was using couldn't keep up with the world and amd chips run too hot bill gates and steve jobs are sleeping together and no one knows
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  42. someone who has never owned a mac is the first one to throw a stone intell macpros will always be far better than any windows laptop that tries to match it yes it is expensive but if you do the maths you actually save money because you don't have to buy a new mother board or ddr memory or graphics card everytime your p.c crashes. and SAY WHAT!!! macs are slow and they crash??? where did you get this bull from??? i am using a mac now and it has never crashed my old macbook never crashed either the macs at your uni are obviously shit!! i had a white macbook for four years cost me $1000 it handled music production on only one gig of ram. i had to rebuild my p.c several times over 6 years and cost me roughly $3000 total then i threw it out the door. now i just own a macbook pro i still think windows is a good system but i have never seen it run more smoothly on my macpro via bootcamp no crashes start up time is good i say if you pay the price for good hardware you will get good performance??? go cheap and suffer!!!! i use both operating systems to do what they are good at i hate it when people say macs are shit if they were shit why do people buy it??? and why has bill gates hopped in bed with steve jobs?? im glad logic is only an apple os stops cheap as guys from running it on their cheap systems windows is bad because it rips people off stick to your cracked version of fruity loops and other ripped off software
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  43. "e. No Mac experience" should be listed as a pro, not a con.
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  44. intel has no ties to microsoft. intel CPUs are the best out there, but they arent made to work with windows in any way. your question is relating two things that have no influence on each other.
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  45. macs might be good for using logic pro but windows is better for running reason an to be honest id rather stick to using reason because when reason 6 comes out in 2 months logic pro will be second best purely coz reason is more easier to use an always will be
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  46. Pro Tools UserJul 24, 2011 11:38 PM
    FL Studio. The world most awesome intuitive, and yet completely flexible audio editor. I use Pro Tools with my Windows, and FL Studio as a sequencer. You can tweak and automate everything so easily. It just makes sense. It's VST compatible, and supports any MIDI controller you can throw at it
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  47. Yeah, CoreAudio is so valuable. It enables the Mac to "speak" pro audio. The Mac can talk to an audio interface, a synthesizer, a sequencer, and get them all working together. Similarly, CoreMIDI enables the Mac to "speak" MIDI, to talk to a keyboard controller or control surface. Now that CoreMIDI is on iPad, you can run an app like AC-7 Core on the iPad and it becomes a wireless Logic Control, talking MIDI to the Mac over Wi-Fi.
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  48. You are totally wrong. Get your head out of the hardware and notice that today's computers are 99% software, and that software is a component.

    The fact that some high-end Dell box has a few more MHz than an Apple box, or has a slightly bigger GPU does not make up for the fact that the Dell box includes almost no software, and what little it has is of the lowest possible quality, with viruses and malware, a 20 year old BIOS firmware instead of modern EFI (which itself is like 8 years old now), and it is not even Unix compatible, 20 years after the Web, 15 years after it went mainstream. The Mac is the most popular Web development machine simply because of the built-in Unix. And you cannot even get Thunderbolt on the Dell, you cannot get a multitouch trackpad, you cannot get a 1-piece aluminum body, you cannot get decent battery life. PC Mag's top Windows notebooks are always Macs.

    And Dell and other Windows vendors hardly sell any high-end boxes anyway. Apple has 95% of high-end PC's. The average sales price of a Mac is $1300, but the average sales price of a Windows PC is $450, over $200 less than the average sales price of an iPad. And Apple only uses i5 and i7. They do not use any low-end chips. So it is Windows users who are getting the crappy hardware components. They are getting them by the pound.

    The software that you get on any Mac is simply in an entirely different league than what you get on any other PC. You can put your fingers in your ears and pretend it is not, but it is. And that is why Apple's sales are going up, and all the other PC vendors sales are going down. Like I said, today's PC's are 99% software, the total opposite of the early 1980's, when they 99% hardware that just booted up to a command prompt. People are buying Macs to get the software that is on them. The Mac OS X plus iLife a Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM is much, much, much better and more productive than Windows 7 on an i5 with 8GB RAM. That Windows machine may have a faster chip in it, but the Mac gets work done faster.
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  49. Because IBM (Apple's old supplier) and Intel switched chip-making philosophies.

    In 1997, IBM made small, low-power chips that were good in notebooks (good for Apple,) and Intel made huge, high-power chips that were good in big tower desktops (of no use to Apple.) By 2007, they had switched: Intel was making small, low-power chips that are good in notebooks (good for Apple,) and IBM was making huge, high-power chips that are good in big servers (of no use to Apple.) That is why Apple switched from IBM to Intel in 2006. (Then they jumped OS X onto ARM the following year in 2007 with iPhone.)

    If you look at Apple's Intel systems, they start with Core. That is the line of chips where Intel for the first time made a chip for notebooks first, making it low-power, and then if you wanted more computing power, you'd add more chips (2-way, 4-way, etc.) That is how IBM's chips used to work. So Core was the first Intel chip that Apple could have used. There was no space in any of Apple's products over the past 15 years for a Pentium chip except for Mac Pro. Pentium is just way too big, way too much power, way too much heat. Core was designed to emulate Apple's success in notebooks with G4 (they sold 1-inch thick, 5 hour battery notebooks with great performance and built-in Wi-Fi in 2001, years before Intel-compatible systems did the same), but that also made Core a great chip for Apple once IBM decided to get out of low power chips.
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  50. I don't know about you, but I'm pretty sure the Internet is not a fad. It's going to be around a while. I don't think leaving support for it out of a PC to save money is a good strategy. The reason that OS X is built on a Unix core is to make it safe to use it on the Internet. Yes, it's worth paying for.

    And Apple Logic Pro and a 15-inch MacBook Pro to run it on costs less than Emagic Logic Platinum software. In other words, the hardware is free. Setting up a Logic system not only got radically easier under Apple than under Emagic, it also got radically cheaper under Apple. So you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

    I'm sorry that you have so many personal emotional issues that are preventing you from getting a clear picture of the realities of today's computing environment. Fact is, a Mac has lower cost of ownership than a Windows PC, and it is very easy to make a Mac pay for itself in creative work.
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  51. No, iPad is much better for running Reason than a Windows PC. The touchscreen alone makes it better, but the stability of iPad is also great.
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  52. Ridiculous. I used to use Cubase and it was crashy and didn't have a single decent effect or synth in it, you had to build from scratch. I've been using Logic Pro every day all day for over 5 years: no crashes. And it comes with a complete set of effects and instruments built-in. You don't have to add anything, that is optional. And Logic Pro is fully integrated with CoreAudio and CoreMIDI and Xgrid. You can do things like use other computers on the network as a cluster computer to get more CPU, you can combine multiple audio interfaces into one, you can hot plug and unplug audio and MIDI devices and they just work, even mid-session, you can use an iPad as a wireless Logic Control. And Logic Pro is only $499, or $199 for upgrades. Comes with about 10 other apps and many loops, too. It's a great app.
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  53. If Adobe spent the next 10 years adding features to Audition it would not even be close to a match for Logic. If you go and look at Logic running on a Mac, the screen you see is only one of the 99 screens. Logic is a composition and music production tool, it is not a broadcast toy like Audition.

    Logic has been around since the 1980's, when it was originally called Notator. Logic has forgotten more about music and audio than Audition will ever know.
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  54. It's "Mac," not "MAC." A "MAC" is a Machine Access Code, the unique number that identifies every networking interface on the planet. "Mac" is just short for "Macintosh."

    Yes, you can open your Logic for Windows songs in Logic for Mac.

    Maybe you can use your VST instruments if the maker has a version that is compiled for Mac. But it is better to get versions that are done as CoreAudio AudioUnit plug-ins instead because they have more modern routing, and they are 1,000,000 times more stable than VST. I was able to replace all my Mac VST instruments with AudioUnits for free when AudioUnits came in.
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  55. Fucking scroll up and read the article, genius.
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  56. Yes, that setup will enable you to record audio. It is good for making scratch demos for songwriting or for recording a speech. But if you are recording vocals to use in a production mix, you should go microphone to preamp/compressor to audio input. The compressor is as essential to vocals as an amp is to guitar. Without them you do not have a proper vocal or guitar sound.

    To make a good digital sound, first make a good acoustic sound and a good electric sound. The acoustic sound is your voice vibrating the air in front of the microphone … that might sound sort of like theater or opera, it is not a rock/pop/soul/country/rap type of vocal sound, it is just a voice. The electric sound is the mic/preamp/compressor turning your voice into a hot analog signal that sounds thick and full like the vocal sound on a record, and which never clips; then the digital audio interface simply converts that big fat no-clip analog signal into pretty numbers. You get a perfect waveform in the digital domain, big and fat but with no clips.
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  57. Hardly anybody uses it anymore.
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  58. No, it is Microsoft's fault. The equivalent system on the Apple side is used by all those same companies.
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  59. The thing you missed is that Apple dramatically slashed the price of Logic. What Apple sells for $499 today ($199 upgrade) used to cost over $2000 from Emagic. So the MacBook Pro you now need to run Logic Pro is free.

    Another way to look at it is that Apple replaced the Logic USB key with a MacBook Pro and kept the price of Logic the same.

    > shame

    It's a shame that HP and Dell and so on will sell you PC's with almost no software on them.
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  60. Unless there is a specific file converter, you probably just want to go into Sonar and render out each track as a 32-bit audio file or a type zero MIDI file, then create a new Logic project and drag those tracks in.
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  61. The thing with Logic Studio is, if you like it, the you should be using a Mac. The philosophy of Logic Studio and the Mac are the same: build in one of everything, so that add-ons are optional customizations rather than essential components. When I used Cubase, I had probably 30 different 3rd party plug-ins, I couldn't do anything with just-Cubase. But once I switched to Logic, I only have about 5 plug-ins, and they are all very creative choices, very unusual synths and weird effects. I didn't have to add EQ's and compressors and so on. I didn't have to start from scratch when building my studio, it was 95% built when I got it. I just had to bring in the weird shit that is unique to me. Similarly, the Mac comes with a music app, photos app, video editor, pro audio subsystem, Web server, thousands of other components that you have to add to Windows. You get a complete system that you only have to customize to taste if you want to do that.
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  62. For crying out loud, use some punctuation - and I don't mean the three question marks. . .
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  63. FL Studio?  LOL!  Wow...... go get your crayons and casio and make some cool jams!
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  64. Please, no more BS. I've read through the past comments and everyone's sending out the same message "it'll pay off in the long run". F off. Macs only save money if you are into the music business (which initially was the point however). but when considering the multitude of other things not included in the mac, it seems a stupid decision to take. I chose a pc over a mac willingly for it's compatibility. The only things apple have to themselves are Apple branded produce. Everything else works with Windows. Flash, Adobe, WebGL (made for apple, works with windows), Trident, Gecko, for almost everything, a pc is capable. Take an incredibly powerful gaming pc. Would that said pc be running apple? No. It would run windows.  Why? Because it supports more software, which is apparently what keeps Apple in the money. If components for expensive pc's such as these (pc's worth around £1500) were put into macs, they would be worth around £2000 or more. Now considering the up points of an apple ("multi touch track pad" "aluminium case" both of which are not needed and are only there to induce yet more up their own A*SE folk to buy them) It doesn't seem worth the extra £500 odd (without logic mind you) for a pc that has less ability. 

    Im not saying dont buy a Mac though. What doesnt SEEM worth it, doesn't mean it's necessarily worse. However i've owned my current windows pc for 5 years. It wasnt expensive then and runs perfectly now. It has 2Gb of RAM, a 2.0Ghz cpu and a dedicated graphics card. It's never crashed and it has served me well. The one thing i detest is when Mac People raise their noses to windows. It is only the incompetent battalion of people who cant figure an exe from a jpeg that let windows down. Then they buy macs, complain about windows and slander a company for their own failures. I have always kept the same motto, blame the user not the interface. And when all people have to say about windows is how "Bad" it is, it's a load of BS. 

    Consider it this way, Macs and Windows have different strengths and weaknesses. If you get one, dont then complain about the other. It's a matter of choice. Compatibility or usability.
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  65. Logic is better than cubase.there is no doubt.but it is better if you can use both.because its quick and easy working with videos,if you use cubase.But the sound of logic is100 times deep than cubase.
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  66. Logic and Pro tools are 100 times better than cubase/nuendo.but when you work with videos,you should use cubase/nuendo rather than logic/pro tools,depending on the length of video clips.cubase/nuendo exports in no time.
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  67. So does apple hack into people's brains to make them think the sub-par hardware and limited software selection is actually better?  
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  68. I've been using a pc to create music for over 8 years and its never had a negative effect on my ability to create. You've obviously had a bad experience with microsoft at some point (and who hasn't) but I don't think you can justify the extra expense of having a mac based on the on board software (which is still greatly affected by the hardware controlling it). I spent £800 on my tower pc and it pisses all over my mates £2000 mac every time, nothing to do with software but simply because I've got 8gb of ram and 3.6ghz 7i quad core (which is a higher spec than anything on the apple website at a fraction of the cost).
    Thats not to say that I dont appreciate that some people are not affected and therefore dont care about the performance to cost ratio, but as a student I cannot afford to spunk what little money I have on what is essentially a gimmicky fad. 
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  69. portablesoundsDec 1, 2011 04:05 PM
    ARGH! Why does all of the good programs go to Apple!?!?! I am going to buy the Mac OS and Virtual Box it on my computer!
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  70. This is nonsense. I have a Macbook pro, and OSX is nothing more than Unix in a different jacket. And Unix is not "core audio". Not at all. I also have Windows7 PC and various laptops running Win7. They do a perfect job recording, mixing and mastering using USB-audio interfaces or FireWire. Apple is indeed a lot more hype than most devote Apple users will ever admit.When buying a Mac, you pay 3 times the price for the same hardware from Faxconn City in China as you would when buying a Windows or Linux computer.. And still people pay for it. Can't believe it.
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  71. Prepare for hell. I've tried it on several computers/laptops. Virtual Box and VMWare, both alike, it didn't work.
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  72. I worked in a studio with a 24 Channels SSL Oxford Duality Console, a few high end classical external gear (L1176, Lexicon Reverb...) everything was great, the only problem was... the MAC! The Computer Tech meant everything was fine but the MAC kept on getting stuck in every possible way, often throwing to dogs hours of work. So I think the whole stability issue is more like a kind of religious faith. When I was in the music production school I neeed a mac to run Logic 8 but had not enough money and no interest in buying one, so I went Hackintosh on my Sony Vaio Laptop. The only problem was to get the Dual Booting, which I finally got working. I can agree on the fact that OSX is more confortable for many reasons, such as "deistallation process=throw to the garbage" - which is amazing- and for the speeded up loading and shutdown times. But that's the point: what's really good is the OS, then you can buy hi-end component youself, not having to pay €240,- for a little RAM upgrade. Anyway Apple's real strength is making people FEEL COOL and NICE owning one of their products. Their marketing campaigns have lobotomized people so that they run to the apple store for every bullshit they bring out. Yesterday I was in the Subway with almost other 50 persons, more than a half of them playing wiht some stupid iphone app. 30 different individuals, THINKING DIFFERENT, in the same exact way.
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  73. This is a poor decision to not migrate to Windows PCs. There are a LOT of professional producers in here which are working with Windows only and don't think about to buy a mac.

    Ableton, Cubase, Reason, FL Studio... all the sequencer "pro tools" are available on both platform, and Logic is the only software which is despising windows.

    I will buy a windows PC for now. My Mac is selled already..
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  74. Great Blog Ricco!

    I am also a multi media artist as well as a producer and i just want to add, Logic Pro Studio is certainly the best music producing software i have ever used!

    check out my site guys next to my name ;)
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